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Hello guys, Currently I am searching cost-effective AV and speaker system which comes into my Rs. 35K budget. I have done little investigation and found out my budget is very tight so I am considering upgrade approach to buy Amp and 2 front speakers first and in 6 months to year I will upgrade it with sub-woofer and remaining speakers. I appreatiate if you can share your thoughts/feedback/experience. Thanks in advance, Dj B

Well said! I too have a Creative Inspire 5.1 alongwith the Creative Audigy soundcard. I truly cannot come to terms with the fact that the atrocious price difference between this and a BOSE system is explained by the "better" audio quality of the latter.

Michael, use those Klipsch as fronts, bitch!

Someone tell me where I can get sub woofer drivers. Ah Nilesh I think you forgot to mention our visit to the B&W showroom :)) Those were monsters.

Cool! You use tubes!

hey good people ... am on after ages. Got my cable reconnected, visited Kerala for a good 7 days. Now working on my website[attempting a standards compliant one hehe. ]. Read about your website, i did visit many times in the last month, thought it was your registrar .. lol coz i actually checked whether your domain name was available. So what else is new??? and am not sure whether your mailATnilesh exists soo .. am sending a couple to your domain .. in a few hours!

Yes, BOSE sucks and it is not for purists. Guess what? Onkyo sucks too! The Creative Inspire is made with tight tolerances and has been designed by the legendary Cambridge Soundworks. What more do you want ;) I assembled my own boxes from Vifa and ScanSpeak drivers I imported from The Netherlands. Pity, they aren't sheilded; but they work just great. Especially the fluid cooled bass driver. The Amp is a custom designed mod of the great ancient Philips design. I use Vaccum tubes for the preamp and some other components for a reduced THD and linearity. Good to meet another audiophile!

None of you know what you are talking about. All of the crap you are talking about, no one wants to deal with. Tubes, resistors, woofers, components, no one wants to deal with that shit. If you want the simplest setup with the best sound, bose is the only way. At least they put research into their products and dont roll out new product every month and add a blue light here and there and call it a "new model"

BOSE is not the best sound if you don't want to mess with that stuff. It costs more money than professional audio equipment. You can get studio monitors cheaper than a freakin BOSE system. I mean look at this crap: http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=901_floorstanding_index Their home theatre systems are in the thousands! Their headphones are rediculously more expensive than studio headphones. They won't tell you the specifications of the systems. They are a perfect, 100% example of prosumer.

whatever, youre one of those audio people who wants to sound smart by talking about a bunch of crappy receivers, at least bose puts research into their products

Bose is the only company that I know of that actually has employees go out on the internet and post as "happy owners". They usually give it away when they post a boilerplate letter about how wonderful Dr. Amar Bose is, and how 100% of their profits go back into research. If that was really true, then the space shuttle by now would be made of paper whizzer cones. I think the only other company that still uses paper cones in its speakers is Delco. Its truly sad when you look at Bose crappy paper cones, and realize that even companies that get their speaker stocks from communist china (Pyle, Pyramid, Phase Linear, others) now use poly cones and technology that puts bose to shame. At least they are humble enough to charge what they are worth, unlike Bose.

Bad Overpriced Sound Equipment Basically summs it up - BOSE is okay....but not good. And its an absolute rip off. I have used Sony speakers that outperform BOSE speakers. If u want to impress your n00b friends - buy BOSE If u want to impress your audiophile friends - smash a BOSE subwoofer with an axe.

all of u bose haters r stupid and dont know the true technology that bose has to offer did u know that bose speakers are the only ones that dont hurt your ears when they are at there highest level(which is pretty high higher than pro audio compnents and did u think about what ur saying its not REAL paper they use special polymers that make it look like a paer product so itas not heavy and doed not muffle the sound. From the other listings it sounds as if u hate the speakers cuase u cant afford good quality and u dont know good quality when it hits u in the face, to me who ever doesnt like these speakers is a really truely a moronic idiot that probably has not sense in technology.

Bose puts their profits back into research? What the hell are they using to pay for their massive media blasts? Their research consists of devising ways to separate consumers from their money with slick ad campaigns. As a life long audiophile, I can tell you that Bose manufactures overpriced, under-performing products. I say this not as a snob or some over-the-top wacko purist, but as someone with many years of experience where audio gear is concerned. If your car was malfunctioning, who's opinion would you trust...a layman's or a mechanic's? When shopping for audio gear, it's a very simple matter for a consumer to examine most any competing products side by side to see the differences in quality and performance. Take the opinions of someone who is trying to sell you something with a grain of salt and trust your research, your eyes and your EARS. I don't presume to tell anyone what type of sound they should prefer, nor what is aesthetically pleasing to them. If someone chooses to throw their money away on a product that someone TELLS them is superior, it makes little difference to me. Those consumers are too lazy to undertake the little effort necessary to form a reasonable opinion or are so smitten by the claims of glitzy advertising that they can't be convinced otherwise. To each their own. The truth is that Bose brazenly misinforms the consumer with voodoo engineering and unfounded claims and then overcharges them for the privilege. Fortunately, just a little due diligence on the consumer's part will go a long way toward getting better quality sound and engineering for much less money. Happy listening!

I can guarantee none of you have ever own a BOSE for long enough . Cause when you do your ears get used to it and then you can discern where is the difference between creative and Bose. I have alogitech Z2300 (which is much better than any crap Creative ever came out with - atleast for me personally). Now I would agree by some of you when you say that for an average user the sound out of these high end mulimedia speakers is good enough - heck probably even better cause its bass heavy and it does sound better to the average ear. But I have had a Bose Acosutimass for 2 years and am selling it for personal reasons, but I got no doubt that someday I owe it to myself to buy the Lifestyle 48 or whatever their flagship model would be then. Another thing theoretically speaking the best speaker drivers should be made of paper. Right Bose Haters dont just rant on. Can I tell you the big difference between listening to music on a Bose and Creative, you dance to music on a Bose , you fiddle with the equalizer on a Creative. Oh another thing I know I am gonna expect a lot of flames but before you do people check if you have your SRS settings on in your WMP. Cause if you like those DSP settings you would never understand the difference between Lifestyle Series and Gigaworks series. Chao! Apro

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